Upon This Rock

There is a horrible and devastating misuse of a single Scripture that has been infamous for centuries.  It’s not hidden, it has been carved in stone lifted up on high and declared openly in plain sight.  It can be seen scrolled on the inner ring of the base of the great dome of St. Peter’s Basilica in the Vatican.  Hundreds of millions of people have been deceived by it, for centuries.

It is a hijacking of the words of Jesus telling His disciples that His being the Messiah is the Rock of Revelation that He will build His Church on.  In the Scripture, Jesus didn’t ask who Peter was. He asked who do you say that I am. The twisting of this verse is the basis of all authority the Catholic church claims for itself.  The Catholic church like so many cults of Christianity misappropriated Scripture for its own purposes.

They have kidnapped these words from Jesus and changed them to say that Peter is the Rock that Jesus will build His church on – and it’s all a Lie.  Every bit of it.  As Peter was one of the Apostles, by perverting the Scripture and substituting Jesus with Peter they claim “apostolic succession” from Peter.  It is a term for an idea they made up. Making disciples is what Jesus commanded, they replaced it with apostolic succession.  Anything that opposes Christ or what he said is antichrist. The word Antichrist also means instead of Christ. If they admitted the error, the Catholic church would collapse.

No such succession exists anywhere in Scripture, not a little, not even a word – it’s all made up.  They practice and preach what they said themselves instead of what Christ said. This succeeding an apostle is one of several titles the pope claims, and it is the main title he proclaims – to be Peter’s successor.  Don’t be fooled by the gold and the glitter and everything shiny; the lovely buildings with stained glass, the marble columns the high altar. Don’t.  It’s all man made, and it’s all going to burn. Don’t be surprised when it does.

Peter was an apostle, but there were 11 others.  Paul was one after the 12. All of the apostles had disciples – just like Jesus did.  We know the names of many of their disciples, they were recorded in early Christian writings.  Some are named in the Bible.  Discipleship was the way ordained by God to expand and birth Ministry – it’s in the Scripture.  There is not some other way. Making disciples is the Great Commission that Jesus commanded. Not all are called to ministry, but everyone has to Grow Up in Christ.  Discipleship makes you grow up and become what you’re supposed to be in Him.  I’m an apostle with 12 disciples, but I’m not The Apostle – Jesus is. There are many others. Many apostles were prophets and teachers before becoming apostles, both in the Bible and today. You cannot Call yourself, the Bible says that very clearly.

If you are Called to ministry or any kind of leadership in the Body of Christ, it’s not for prestige but for service.  Service to the Master yes, but it is still service.  Leadership is not for privilege, it’s for responsibility. How refreshing the Truth sounds. Everything else is a bunch of self promoting, self aggrandizing glory robbing megalomania. In other words, the Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and Teacher are there as Gifts from God to deal with Believers, or those who become Believers. By training them with the Word of God to do all the services [themselves] that build up the Body of Christ until everybody reaches the same level of Faith and Maturity. Which is a standard set by Christ, not you feeling that you’ve had enough. All of it is in the Bible, go look it up.

You can start by reading Ephesians 4: 11-24, and read it in several good translations, until you get it. I suggest the Amplified, NIV, Complete Jewish, God’s Word, and the Wuest translation, to name a few. If you put it in military terms [as the Bible often does] you have to go to bootcamp to be of any use as a soldier because you have to be trained. And no, going to church is not bootcamp – Discipleship is bootcamp. The church is filled with people who claim to have been in His Army for 20, 30, 40 years – and they don’t even know how to march! They have no weapons, some have only parts of a uniform, most have no uniform at all – and they don’t even know how to fight the Enemy. So most just shoot at or sabotage each other.

Reading the Bible yourself strengthens your Belief and builds up your Hope, but you have to hear the Anointed Preaching or Teaching of the Word to get the Faith you need. Many have thought for years that Faith came from reading the Bible – but the Bible doesn’t say that. If you read Romans 10 where this is talked about it covers Belief, Faith, Preachers and preaching – and what they’re preaching . . . the Word of Christ. And remember Christ isn’t Jesus’ last name, it’s the Greek word for the Hebrew word Messiah [Meshiac]. Both of which mean the Anointed One and/or His Anointing. It’s referring to those who are Authorized by God [not themselves] to preach and teach His Word. Which Authority is proven by the fact that they have the Anointing. Which not only makes you want to listen, it changes you while you do. But it only changes you a little bit at a time because that’s all we can handle. Teaspoon by teaspoon, brick by brick.

When you tie that in with Ephesians 4, you get a clear picture of what the 5 fold ministry is Called [Authorized] to do. But it’s your choice whether you submit to that Authority, or not. God will not make you. He’ll just look at the choice you made when He gets here. Discipleship is a getting up under someone with real Authority [from God], not just someone who says they have it. You can tell if they have real Authority because if they do – they will also have the Anointing. Which is power. Power to change your life, power to change the lives of others. This power comes from God’s Word, the Holy Spirit and the 5 Fold Ministry working together. All of which have been Ordained by Him in His Word. Your job is not to do the changing. Your job is just to stay plugged in, and let the power change you.

If you’ll look at the relationship between Moses and Joshua, Elijah and Elisha, Paul and Timothy [as well as Titus and Luke], Peter and Mark, John and Polycarp – the Scripture is filled with examples of Discipleship. It is the Biblical model, there is not something else. It’s like a Jedi padawan getting up under a Jedi Master. You don’t want to get up under just anybody, only someone who has the power of God’s Word and His Spirit working in the office of Ministry they stand in. With regular multiple signs miracles and wonders occurring as the Holy Spirit wills. These are called confirming signs in multiple Scriptures. Demonstrating both the Call by God to Ministry and His Approval of what is being ministered. Which is the only acceptable proof as set forth in the Bible, that God is behind you and what you are doing. People don’t like that because it eliminates the validity of most of the institutionalized religious church.

Any church or ministry that does not have the signs miracles and wonders demonstrating the active presence and power of God is pretending. I didn’t say that, the Bible does. If you don’t have the Anointing, get under someone who does so you can get it. Most of the ordained ministers in modern religious christianity only have a piece of paper. Ordination is not on paper, it never has been. Ordination is in power. The power of the Holy Spirit. Jesus did not go to seminary, nor did any of His disciples. In fact, they were completely rejected by the religious establishment of the day and their self appointed authority, who were devoid of any power. Just like today. These self ordained religious priests were the ones who actually killed Jesus. And the Bible says they did it out of Jealousy. They wanted what He had, but they didn’t want to do what He did to get it.

Religion is what man gives instead of coming up into the Relationship that only God has. For all who will let Him be God. In this life that relationship is called Salvation. It is a process not an event. You must decide for yourself if you want the dead dry religion of the world and it’s way of doing things, or true Faith in God. Which is the only way He does everything. Making disciples is the Great Commission. This whole thing is not about what you think you know, it’s about doing what you’re told. Which of course nobody wants to do. We need help.

All of us must learn to do what the Bible says instead of doing what we want. To live for Christ instead of living for Self. It does not sound very attractive to the Selfish nature of our Flesh, which is dying as we speak. Like all biological life, it’s time is very limited. All of the Time being given has been for one purpose: To give you a chance to join the Lord’s side, so that He can give you everything that He has. Here’s some of the best advice I could ever give you – always stay on the Lord’s side. The Bible speaks of a time before Adam and Eve, and there will be a time after this one. But the only ones who will be with Him there, are those that are with Him here. Who are you with . . .

Brother Greg
Full Grown Ministry

http://www.fullgrownministry.com

St. Peter's

Absence of God

It’s not as though these other religions are preaching different versions of the same thing, and Christians have become resentful and afraid of losing their preeminence – not even remotely. I would not even be religious if that were the case. I would just be a sinner, and I’d be good at it. At one time I was, for many years. But I was never religious. Religion is so common in the world. Faith is not. Don’t confuse the two, they are not related.

Only true Christianity has true Faith. Most who consider themselves believers are not part of true Christianity, they are part of religious christianity. Which is not Christianity at all. It is pretend and phony. That’s why it has no power. The power is in the anointing. Everyone has access to it, but it can only be accessed the way God has established it to be accessed. And no other. Christ is not Jesus’ last name. It is the Greek word for the Hebrew word Meshiac [Messiah], which means the Anointed One and or His Anointing. The second meaning the Anointing that goes where He puts it. Which is upon those He has authorized to speak for Him.

Jesus was chosen by God and authorized to say and do everything He said and did. And He had the anointing to back both it and Himself up. He walked on the water because He had the anointing, He raised the dead because He had the anointing, He cast out the demons and fed the thousands with a handful . . . because of the anointing. Not because He is the Son of God. He was already that before He came down here. He came [as a man] to show us [men] how this becoming a Son of God was done [by a man] so we [men] could start doing it ourselves in His Name by following His example. The Bible is very specific on what that example is. That specific example is itself the narrow way, and few travel on it.

Your life depends on you personally getting a hold of why He became a man. The reason He became a man was to bring you to the Inside because you were born on the Outside. He did not do this just so we could agree with what He did and then keep doing our own thing, like we did before He came or before we came to Him. That’s all getting saved is if what you did was say a prayer without realizing you just signed a contract [in the Spirit realm]. That’s what a covenant is, a contract. Except this one is written in blood.

Every true believer has a level of the anointing, and certain things will follow that to prove it. The Scripture says so. But there is even greater anointing in and under the Ministry that every single believer is supposed to be a part of. Ephesians 4 and Romans 10 lay this out clearly. Read them in several translations. Relatively few percentage wise are Called to ministry. Everyone is commanded to get up under the authority of those who are Called. But they cannot make you. God wants everyone to be saved, but Jesus only dealt with those who followed. God will not force Christianity on anyone. Not even those who call themselves by His Name.

With your words you signed a contract. A contract to change and keep changing, until you are just like Jesus. Which of course, you cannot even begin to do alone. That’s why He sent a bunch of help [all described in His Word], but you can only take the help He sent. The help He sent has Power [to help you become like Him, not to help you with your plans to avoid Him]. All other religion does not have any power, so it cannot help you.

God did not start religion, He did not send any of those others. All of the different Offices of the 5 fold ministry were birthed or realigned by Jesus himself. Getting saved is an option for everyone. Getting up under the authority with anointing so that you can grow is not an option, for anyone. We should not be surprised at the monstrosity and size of this religious deception. Jesus warned us about again and again. Especially for the Last Days.

Apostles did not come out of thin air, Jesus created the Office. A few centuries later, Religion shut them all down. They killed most of them. None of the crusades were Christian, they were all Catholic. All of them. Yet so many people including most believers think they were christian, simply because they don’t know history. The very first crusade was against other orthodox believers in Constantinople who refused to join the growing religious mafia of catholicism. Later they would go after the true believers who were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit by true faith, through a wicked device they invented called the Inquisition.

They murdered them by the hundreds of thousands. The Albigenses, Waldenses, Huguenots and Cathars. Born again spirit filled Christians who refused to line up with the heresy, corruption and dogma of the Roman Catholic Church. They killed them because they were the apostles prophets evangelists pastors and teachers, and they had the power. It was the same reason they killed Jesus in His day.

Religion has no power and if it cannot have it, it will kill those who do. But they only had power as they stayed submitted to the rank and structure of Authority as it was created by Christ himself. This is non existent in the church today, because the church as we know it is the Body of Religion. Just as the true Ecclesia is the Body of Believers. Which is the Body of Christ. This body of religion is huge in the earth. Catholic and protestant. It costs nothing to join, and nothing happens when you do. You get to stay exactly the way you are, while telling everyone you follow Jesus.

God is not looking for physical bodies who don’t want to go to Hell. The Creator of the Universe is looking for a people who will learn to live by faith and produce Fruit. These are the ones He is coming for. The Body of Christ is small, less than 10 per cent of those who say they believe. No man has to go through another man to get to Jesus. You can accept Christ all by your self. Every man who wants to follow Him must do it through the rank structure and authority that He himself set up. That is what the 5 fold ministry is. The place you must go to follow Him. You cannot follow Him alone. People who refuse to do this expose their own hatred of submission and their contempt for authority that exists in the fallen nature of all men. Well that is the nature of Lucifer, it is what we became in the fall of man. When Adam and Eve sinned.

It is this fallen nature that must be crucified and did not get born again. That’s what your cross is for. What we think, what we feel and what we want. They are part of our soul not our spirit. They were not saved when you became born again. Your spirit is what got born again, and it is the only place God speaks to you. When man fell he didn’t die soulically, he died spiritually. Your dead spirit was brought back to life, but your soul is where you must change. It is the 5 fold ministry that shows you how to use your cross, how to crucify your flesh and die to self. So you can save your soul. The Bible says it is the goal of your Faith.

Jesus gave His ministers the authority to train believers with His Word. That’s what the 5 fold ministry does, they discipline you with the Word of God to do the things of God. They make you grow up in Christ so that you can mature and produce Fruit. But you must submit your self. God requires it. This is the process. Nowhere in the Bible is it given to us as an option. It is this 5 fold ministry with authority and anointing making disciples that is completely absent from all modern religious christianity. Catholic and protestant.

The Catholic church doesn’t have any of the anointing at all because it doesn’t have any of the Authority at all. It never has had it. That’s not my opinion. Go check it out yourself. You don’t have to believe me. Go look at any Catholic church anywhere on the planet at anytime, including the Vatican. There is a strong sense of religion but no presence of God. A clear demonstration of much control, with a complete absence of [supernatural] Power. And high ceilings do not denote Power.

But here’s the thing you have to check out: the people. Especially the clergy. The anointing and authority aren’t on buildings, they are on people. Yes, there are some amazing and spectacular buildings, but that’s the whole point – it’s a Disguise. The spectacular of the physical distracts and fools our carnality through what we see with our eyes, keeping us from seeing the moving of the Spirit which is subtle. Most of the time. Which can only be seen with the eyes of our spirit. That’s how God wants us to see Him, with the eyes of our heart.

You’ll notice immediately that the people in these religious systems are devoid of the true Holiness, Peace or Joy that comes from following God. If you’ve never seen these things you may not know what I’m talking about. Instead they are filled with a long dead, bone dry, deeply powerless Religion run by a bunch of frustrated, fussy, effeminate little old men. Who replaced Him as the boss a long time ago. Hungry for power, lonely for love, they are the Institution that has become both the apex and the epitome of everything God never meant the Body of Christ to be. This is man on his own without God, trying to work his way back to God on his own terms. It is called Religion. And it is a stench in the nostrils of God.

If you are not following the plan, the mold, the blueprint, the instructions, the order of battle, the building code that He laid out in His Word about His Son – what makes you think you’re a Follower. You’re not a Christian because you call yourself one, or because you go to church. You are a Christian because you do what Christ did and you say what He said. And even when you miss it, you only know that you missed it because you know what it was that He did. Don’t speculate on What Would Jesus Do, the Bible is filled with what He did do! We are supposed to do what the Bible says. Go and do what Jesus did, go and say what Jesus said.  Then you will be . . . just like Jesus.

Brother Greg
Full Grown Ministry

http://www.fullgrownministry.com

Recommended Reading:

The Vatican Exposed   [Paul L. Williams/Prometheus Books]

A Woman Rides the Beast: The Roman Catholic Church and the Last Days  [Dave Hunt/Harvest House Publishers]

There are many many books on the subject, these are 2 of the better ones.